What Is MGTOW?
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MGTOW stands for Men Going Their Own Way. MGTOW is an online movement that communicates via various forums, platforms, and social media sites. MGTOW almost always like to remain anonymous – the vast majority communicate using pseudonyms.
MGTOW see men as victims in modern society. According to the MGTOW worldview, men do most of the work and create most of the value in society. And yet men are treated very much as second-class citizens, while women get extremely preferential treatment. Men are victims, women are oppressors.
MGTOW see themselves as a chosen few who have taken the metaphorical red pill which allows them to see reality as it really is. They have broken free from the delusion that most of mainstream society is trapped in.
Essentially, MGTOW is an anti-female movement. MGTOW hate and fear female nature. Or more accurately, they hate their simplistic, absolutistic, paranoid notion of what female nature is.
MGTOW men stay away from women as much as possible. They don’t date, don’t marry, and don’t have children.
MGTOW Ideas of Female Nature
MGTOW believe that female nature is a destructive force that can cause great harm and that needs to be tightly controlled and managed. They believe that in modern Western societies, in which women have essentially equal rights and freedoms, female nature has been let off the leash and is running wild. MGTOW see this as extremely harmful to men and to society in general.
MGTOW see women as deeply Machiavellian and hypergamous. To be hypergamous means to always be looking to trade up for a better partner. MGTOW believe that females are intensely hypergamous and that this makes them untrustworthy, disloyal, and unable to feel genuine love.
MGTOW believe that while they know the truth of female nature, this ‘truth’ is hidden from the vast majority of men (and women) in mainstream society. This ugly ‘truth’ of female nature is denied and obfuscated by society.
It is the MGTOW creed that women attempt to take advantage of men constantly, remorselessly, and by any means possible. Women use the government, the court system, and men’s own sexual desire as weapons in their attempts to bleed men dry.
“Many women today will rip out your heart and testicles through your wallet, and move on to their next victim with absolutely no second thoughts.” ‘Sandman’, prominent MGTOW YouTuber.
Men Get Better With Age, Women Crash Into ‘The Wall’
‘Men age like wine, women age like milk’… MGTOW believe that women’s physical attractiveness peaks in their early twenties and that they hit ‘the wall’ (which means their looks suddenly and irredeemably deteriorate) in or around age 30.
MGTOW believe that men’s attractiveness increases as they get older because they tend to make more money and gain more power and influence.
Therefore, MGTOW believe that a man who is just coming into his power as he moves into his 30s would be crazy to give that power away to a woman who is on the verge of crashing into the dreaded wall.
How Women Trap Men
According to MGTOW, a woman will shit-test a man and behave badly in order to wear him down and turn him into a broken shell of a man that is obedient, easy to control, and will say “yes” to her every wish and whim. A woman will lie, cheat, manipulate, and coerce in any way she can in order to make a man compliant. But ironically, when a woman succeeds in making a man totally compliant, she will tend to then lose all attraction for him. So she needs to keep multiple men hanging around that she can use to meet her needs in various ways.
Women Cannot Truly Love
MGTOW question whether women are capable of feeling love at all. They do not believe that a woman is capable of loving a man in the same way that a man is capable of loving a woman. MGTOW believe women love opportunistically. Whereas a man’s love is pure. They believe that men love intensely and selflessly, whereas women are not wired for this type of intense, selfless love.
The Modern Female’s Gameplan
Thanks to the freedom afforded women by modern contraception and the women’s liberation movement, more women are having more sexual partners before ‘settling down’ now than ever before. MGTOW call this riding ‘the cock carousel’ and unsurprisingly, they frown on it.
According to MGTOW, women ride ‘the cock carousel’ with wild abandon when they are in their 20s, having no strings attached sex with as many hot, bad-boy alpha males as they can. Then when they are about to hit ‘the wall’ (or already have) they cash in their chips and snare themselves a less attractive beta male to provide for them for the rest of their lives.
This beta male provider will be blue pill, meaning he has no understanding of true female nature. MGTOW believe women pick these blue pill betas as provider husbands because they are easier to manipulate due to their lack of understanding of female nature and their lack of alternative sexual opportunities.
According to MGTOW, women have children with provider betas mainly as insurance. When they have children with a man they can safely leave him and be guaranteed to receive alimony and child support for years and years to come.
MGTOW warn against marriage and having children. They recommend that if a man wants to have a child he should go to a country such as Thailand or Mexico and get a surrogate mother to have the child for him. That way the mother has no rights and there’s no risk of the child being stolen by her or of him being taken to court.
MGTOW believe that while all of this is going on, women keep a harem of men around them that they can use in different ways – some for sex, some for gossip, some for ego gratification, some for money. The modern woman can’t be satisfied by only one man, so she will lie and coerce and use multiple men to get her needs met.
Prevention Is Better Than Cure
MGTOW is a form of protection. MGTOW believe that a man who understands female nature is harder to guilt-trip and shame into allowing a woman to take advantage of him and ruin his life. A man who understands the reality of female nature is harder to manipulate and extract resources from.
The NAWALT Myth
NAWALT is a term that inspires snide comments and derision in the MGTOW community. NAWALT stands for ‘not all women are like that’. Most MGTOW believe that men who cry “NAWALT!” are naive and delusional at best, traitors conspiring with the enemy at worst!
MGTOW believe that women who are kind-hearted, decent, empathetic, and care about men are incredibly rare, like unicorns, or perhaps… don’t exist at all.
Who Becomes a MGTOW?
One of the main reasons that many men become MGTOW is because they’ve been burned by women and been taken to the cleaners in the divorce courts. Many middle-aged MGTOW are paying enormous alimonies to their ex-wives.
One suspects that another large section of MGTOW men have very little or no experience with women, have never gotten the attention from women that they crave, and therefore feel inept, frustrated, angry, and resentful… and that this is the main source of their hatred toward females.
The 4 Levels of MGTOW
MGTOW exist on a spectrum. There are four main categories of MGTOW, ranging from least extreme to most extreme.
The Purple Pill Man… He believes that women and relationships are dangerous but often thinks the risks are worth it and gets into relationships anyway.
Level 2 MGTOW… He is willing to have short-term flings, hookups and short-term relationships with women, but he will not get involved in a long-term relationship, marriage, or cohabitation situation.
Level 3 MGTOW… He doesn’t date women at all and he limits his interaction with women as much as possible.
Level 4 MGTOW… He limits interactions with women, the state, and everyone else in society as much as possible. He is ‘ghosting’, which means he is trying to stay invisible to women, the state, and the rest of society. Many men on this most extreme end of the MGTOW spectrum want “men to stop providing love and resources to women on a civilisation-wide scale until society crumbles.”
Problems With the MGTOW Worldview
There is a hard to miss abscess of resentment and pain at the core of the MGTOW worldview. MGTOW seem to feel very hard done by. One can’t help but get the feeling that most MGTOW are just desperately sad, frustrated, and bitter. Perhaps many MGTOW have been very unlucky with the women they’ve met in their own lives. Or perhaps many MGTOW are dark and unattractive human beings themselves, and so have had scant contact with women and are bitter.
There is a stark us/them divide in the minds of MGTOW. They see men and women as opposing sides in a war, as enemies doing battle. This shows a very simplistic and mostly wrong-headed understanding of human evolution and evolutionary psychology. Yes, on some levels we are in competition, with members of the same sex and of the opposite sex – certain games are zero-sum. But altruism is a deeply innate aspect of the human personality. Cooperation and empathy evolved in us because they served us well. Men and women have been cooperating for millennia. Men and women are clearly in this together and we work best together. It isn’t us v them… it’s just us!
There is a highly puritanical and judgemental streak running through MGTOW that reeks of ancient Christian fundamentalism. MGTOW have very rigid notions of how females should behave, how they should be, how they should conduct themselves, what they should do with their bodies. All of this judging and should-ing must get exhausting! MGTOW moral sanctimoniousness is based on fear and frustration-fuelled subjective ideas of how the world ought to be. But who is a MGTOW to tell the world how it ought to be?
Selfishness is an innate human trait also. Women can be selfish, so can men. MGTOW focus on the selfishness in women. That’s fine. But they seem to attach too much meaning to it, to take it too personally. They seem to believe that women’s selfishness is objectively morally bad, that it’s consciously committed, and that women are more selfish than men. In reality, women’s innate selfish tendencies are no more bad than men’s, and neither is objectively bad in any sense… they just are. Most women’s behaviour, like most human’s behaviour, is unconscious… so no need to take it personally, women don’t mean to hurt you – interpersonal relationships can be tough, people get hurt… men and women… that’s life!
Women are no more selfish than men – we all act in accordance with our nature. Men are just as keen and single-minded in their quest to get their needs met as women are. For every woman who manipulates a man into forking over half of his net worth to her after a painful divorce, there is a man who lies to get a woman into bed, gets her pregnant, and then abandons her. Men and women have their lives ruined by men and women all the time.
There is too much bro-science, hearsay, anecdote, and exaggeration in the MGTOW movement. Crude misunderstandings of evolutionary psychology, biology, and incorrect inferences abound. MGTOW men profess to know more about the true nature of females than any other group in mainstream society and yet, by their own admission, they very rarely interact with women in any way, shape, or form!
MGTOW need to meet more women. MGTOW are trapped in an online echo-chamber. Their skewed worldview is validated over and over by other men with the same skewed worldview. When a person becomes indoctrinated into a cult such as MGTOW, confirmation bias kicks in they see ‘evidence’ for their belief everywhere. The more convinced of their worldview they become, the fewer females they interact with, and the more calcified their mind becomes. They have less and less real-world reference experiences that, if they did have them, would soften their stance and open their mind.
Ultimately, humans are remarkably complex and nuanced creatures. All humans, female and male, are capable of beastly and beautiful behaviours. Women can and do hurt men and ruin men’s lives. Men can and do hurt women and ruin women’s lives.
Humans are animals. We have a base animal nature, but we are not only that base animal nature. Humans can and do overcome their baser instincts all the time. Every single day, every single one of us overrides some impulse to do something that our prefrontal cortex decides is not appropriate, not good, not kind. MGTOW paints all women with the same brush. It fails to notice the nuance. It is over-simplistic and unrealistic. It comes from a place of frustration, fear, and resentment.
Let’s hope as many MGTOW as possible can find their way back in from the cold. No man is an island. Women need men. Men need women. We’re in this together.
MGTOW & Feminism – Joined in Hate? (The Ep)
In this episode, we explore two ideologies that have been making quite a ruckus in the social media battlefield in recent years. MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) and Third-Wave Feminism are rather extreme worldviews. Their adherents form tightly knit online tribes. The glue that holds these tribes together is a shared hatred for the opposite sex. On the face of it, the MGTOW tribe and the Third-Wave Feminism tribe are mortal enemies. But on closer inspection, are they actually much more similar than they would like to admit? Are they, in fact, two sides of the same coin?
The MGTOW Lens
Men who adhere to the MGTOW ideology believe that the system is rigged. And that it benefits women to the (often dire) detriment of men. They believe that relationships with women fail a cost-benefit analysis and that the risks (such as unfair divorce settlements, and false rape accusations) are not worth it.
So they believe in going their own way, ploughing their own furrow, choking their own chicken. They believe that living their lives free from women is their best option.
MGTOW men believe the system is corrupt and rigged. And that this flawed system encourages women to act badly. It brings out the worst aspects of female nature and for this reason, puts men at great risk.
The Third-Wave Feminism Lens
The term ‘third-wave’ is attributed to American author and man-despising rage-aholic Rebecca Walker. Rebecca’s writing and lectures are all about identity – gender, race, politics, culture. She is a rabid identitarian. (She has a lot more in common with Alt-Right leader Richard Spencer than she would ever like to admit!)
Third-Wave feminists believe that women labour under many layers of oppression, based on their gender, race, class. They believe that the patriarchy is alive and well. That white males live lives of glorious ease and unfair advantage. And that this patriarchal system led by white men is enabling the success of white males at the expense of everybody else, especially women.
Third-Wave Feminists believe in fighting this system by withdrawing their love and cooperation from evil men. And even by engaging in acts of civil disobedience and violence.
The Trouble With Both
Neither ideology has many adherents in reality. They both bark loudly on the internet. But their barks are much worse than their bites. Only a small minority of humans buy into either worldview. Most men and women are eager to enjoy and support the opposite sex. Luckily, cooperation and solidarity between the sexes is still the norm.
Both MGTOW and Third-Wave Feminism are extremist identities built on a foundation of hatred for the other. They see a simplifying picture of the world in which their gender is their main defining feature. They ignore the intricacies, eccentricities and nuances of individual humans. And see a simplified, black and white picture of reality. And being married to a simplified identity – whether its gender, race, or political party, is always risky.
We Are More Similar Than We Are Different
Ultimately, it is a truism of clinical psychology that men and women are much more similar than they are different. Sure, we have gender defined differences – in temperament, interests and sexual tastes – but we are enormously similar in a great many ways also. And you can never judge an individual person’s personality based solely on their sex. There are aggressive women, passive and gentlemen, women who long to sleep around, and men who want to settle into long-term monogamous relationships.
In most areas that matter, there is much more difference between individual members of the same sex than there is between the average of the sexes in general.
So, resist the clarion call of MGTOW and Third-Wave Feminist extremists, and see life and humans as the complex and nuances soup they are. And love and respect your brothers and sisters, and take personal responsibility for your station and actions in life!
Allow me to clarify MGTOW for you. You seem very confused.
I’m the most fortunate man to have ever lived. Why? Because I understand female nature and feminist appropriation of masculine accomplishments (theft). Because I understand that women don’t want equality, but rather ‘equity’ (socialism). Because I understand that marriage is the legal and financial enslavement of men to women and her state husbandry (socialism/equity). Because I know that men built and maintained all upon the earth, not women. Because I recognize men’s lives were/are trafficked, exploited and disposed of in war for women’s safety and welfare (human sacrifice). Because I understand that feminism is the simple appropriation of masculine achievements (socialism). Because I understand Affirmative Consent and VAWA are feminist’s way of revoking men’s rights to presumption of innocence and due process. Because I understand no-fault divorce is feminist’s way (NAWL) of redistributing wealth and power from men to women and her state boyfriend through alimony, asset division and child support. Because I understand that MeToo is yet another attempt by feminists to brand masculinity as toxic by projecting women’s sins upon men – pretending that women don’t sell themselves to men through their sexuality – for the purposes of manipulating masculinity into that which better serves women and her state enforcers. Because I understand gynocentrism, courtly love, chivalry, male disposability and cultural misandry and know how they’re used to guilt and shame men (shaming language) into their own demise on women’s and her state father’s behalf (human sacrifice).
I am truly the most fortunate man to have ever lived – because I understand the manipulative ways of women, her man-sacrificing state keeper and our misandric world. Feminists sparked women’s sexual revolution so that women could have sex like men – free and easy. Upon realizing women were losing money in the deal and that women were suffering as a result – feminists began to promote Amish feminism so that more women might be paid for sex through marriage, no-fault divorce, alimony, asset division and child support – which were all of course created by feminists for women’s appropriation of masculine accomplishments and men’s disposal (see NAWL).
What do feminists and minority groups like blm and antifa promote? White hate, cop hate, masculinity hate, America hate, Constitution hate, borders hate and all desire but one thing: the appropriation of white male achievements (socialism/theft). Mass immigration into white male dominated nations is in fact the appropriation and colonization of white male accomplishments. Feminism is in fact the appropriation and colonization of masculine accomplishments. What’s the goal of minority groups like antifa/blm and feminists? Destruction of the patriarchy (the destruction of white male power and wealth). Feminists and minority groups like blm and antifa simply project their acts of sexism, appropriation, racism and colonization on to whites and males.
Feminists aren’t men’s worst enemies – they’re women’s worst enemies. Minority groups like blm and antifa aren’t white’s worst enemies – they’re minorities worst enemies. Whites and males will simply deny the white haters and man haters their cooperation and support- as they’ve to some extent already done.
So you see – MGTOW is very unlike feminism. MGTOW simply tell the truth – and that truth shall set men free.
MGTOW is not the equivalent of Feminism. Because of gynocentric society men are told masculinity in bad. Many women don’t appreciate what men have done or what we give in a relationship. Thus, they leverage a line of thirsty guys to demand special treatment, not equality. MGTOW is simply a philosophy that tells man you are the prize. Work hard, improve yourself in all ways, maintain a healthy lifestyle, and stop putting women and sex ahead of your own self. Final rule, never marry because it is a financial contract. Some MGTOW want nothing to do with women, some MGTOW want complete equity in relationships. It all depends on what the MAN wants not what society or women want.
Extreme hypergamy, gynocentrism, feminism, state favouring women, tremendous risks and costs vs few benefits for men, etc.
Some men are just taking their own way, without hate, without resentment, just a rational reaction to a hostile environment and they are also trying to enlighten other men to be aware of the reality.
If you work hard your taxes go to feminists.
You made the typical one note analysis of mgtow. Some mgtows are haters, lots are not. I suggest you take a serious look at huMAN on youtube, for an example of how thoughtful they can be. He does get harsh sometimes but not without reason.
I’m not saying all MGTOW are haters. Not all feminists are haters either. But the structures of the groups are set up for hate, separation, judgement of the other. Not positive. This generally leads to negative, hateful speech from those within the groups. Generally. Not always. If I at any point said always, I’m sorry, I take it back.
No problem. Perhaps you should consider the following…
When a murderer or serial rapist in my country(UK) is caught and tried such as john worbuoys, there is a media circus, asking questions like ‘what are the pervasive attitudes in men that contribute to this?’ so feminist tinged attitudes seem to require collective male responsibility for the psychopathic minority. When a disgusting paedophile like Vanessa George is caught for abusing toddlers in a nursery, no one asks ‘what pervasive attitudes in web contribute to this?’ see the difference. In this women are treated as individuals, men are a monolithic danger. Guilty until proven innocent.
Hey Josh, Thanks for your comment. I am unaware of the cases you’re mentioning, but they seem in keeping with the general differences in how we treat men and women. I didn’t write the article in question so I can’t speak to Stephen’s thinking, but I imagine he thinks something similar to me: toxicity only breeds toxicity. The toxicity of third-wave feminism led to MGTOW. But MGTOW, in my eyes, is not a positive movement. It may have positive aspects. It may be positive for some men. But in my experience, it is generally negative. There is a lot of woman-hating within the MGTOW community. Inherent in the name is negativity. Ostracisation.
Feminism was fucked from its very onset. Why? Because any movement that focuses on one group and pushes forward the agenda of just that group will never stop when equality is reached. Instead, such a movement will continue on, seeking more and more power, more and more rights, for its group – at some point this comes at the detriment of other groups. MGTOW was fucked from the onset for the very same reason.
Instead of being a feminist or a MGTOW, be an egalitarian.
I recommend checking out our ep entitled Paul Graham – Keeping Your Identity Small. There is great danger in attaching your identity to groups in general. We all do it, but minimizing this inherent shortcoming is advisable.
The author seems to forget, or ignore that there is a huge group of young men who were born to parents who are now in their fifties and sixties. Lot of those young men have seen their parent split up, and in most of the cases, the father was at the short end in the divorce court. So these men are now wondering why they should take a chance of getting into a similar situation. With the divorce rates like 1 out of 2, marriage is like a gamble, and not a good one. There are quite a lot of young (and older men)that have gone (semi) mgtow, who are very successful in their lives in terms of career, friends and how they lead their lives. Women may not like it, but that is their issue. In part thanks to Metoo, best thing for young men is to stay single and look well after yourself.
MGTOW is definitely a lot safer now for many of us smart single men since Feminism is much worse than cancer as well. So many very Damaged women everywhere that are just real men haters today altogether since they really need to see a good Shrink too. Ops very sorry, there really is no help at all for you very troubled women nowadays. Been there unfortunately. Go MGTOW.
MGTOW saves men’s lives today. And Feminism is much worse than Cancer.
If you think feminism is worse than cancer, then you’ve never seen your 11 year old child die of leukemia. I hope some day you die a slow and painful death from cancer. Even then, I fully expect you to blame it on some innocent woman. How about taking the full plunge by performing a self castration a la Heaven’s Gate or Boston Corbett?
Not sure where you got this from? I’ll say 2 things on this though:
1) I used to be quite a bitter man regarding as I got burned a lot by people that called themselves ‘feminists’.
2) We have to allow for jokes in life. Even jokes about cancer. My mum had throat cancer twice. But I still think there is space for this.
You seem to have an awful lot of energy around this – what exactly do you disagree with from that ep?
The existence of MGTOW alone makes the idea of patriarchy absurd. If white men have it so easy in society, why do so many white men think they are better off without it?
The author claims that men and women naturally cooperate. I think this is only the case when both value raising children in a healthy family more than their own needs. If society no longer values reproduction and family, then men’s and women’s sexual drives no longer serve a purpose and these desires must become entirely selfish. The sexual act cannot be holy when it is treated simply as pleasure rather than the means by which the next generation is created. Without functioning gender roles and family at the center of focus in society, men and women can be nothing other than objects to each other, women sexual objects to men and men financial objects to women. The issue MGTOW has is that women’s selfish behavior is protected and encouraged and men’s desires are harshly punished.
I would personally like to be able to start a family, but I think this is not likely to happen in the USA until either the laws change or the quality of women available goes way up. I don’t know that I’ll never find a suitable partner, but I know from experience that most women are better at creating problems than solving them and that they have the legal right to steal all my money or send me to prison whenever they want if I allow myself to be in a relationship with them. I don’t know that I can never have a healthy relationship, but I know that I could lose a lot if I go looking for one, and therefore I will be extremely cautious and maybe never marry in the USA.
MGTOW has become a real lifesaver for many of us men today because of these very evil feminists women that are real men haters to begin with. And any single man that gets married today would certainly have to be very crazy to marry these kind of women now which they will have their lives destroyed by these very pathetic women too. Been there already.
The first guy went on and on about how “feminism” is “the appropriation of white male accomplishments” or whatever but let’s not forget that science has confirmed that AFRICA is the cradle of civilization, which means that Civilization was actually invented by Black men. I won’t get into “Black Lives Matter,” but personally, I think MGTOW and men taking “The Red Pill” is a good thing. YouTube is a very prominent source of videos on the topic, my personal favorites being MGTOW Darius and Coach Red Pill. #MeToo is nothing more than “feminism weaponized” against the opposite gender. All women should be heard, taken seriously but not necessarily “believed” without sufficient evidence. In the United States of America, it’s “innocent until PROVEN guilty” but with #MeToo, it’s the complete opposite. That is why we are MGTOW.
This is the very excellent reason why so many of us men are still single today because of feminism. Very pathetic women nowadays are just real men haters since the great majority of these women are gay to begin with as well. God forbid just saying good morning or hello to a woman now for many of us men has really become very extremely dangerous too. This is why a lot of us good single men never met the right good normal woman from the beginning which they really are very much too blame. And notice that i said a normal woman which unfortunately they really don’t exist anymore these days since they will even Curse at us men too since i had this happened to me already, even when i never did anything wrong. Back in the old days it was a very different story since the great majority of the women were definitely Real Ladies and the very complete opposite of today altogether, which made love very easy to find at that time the way that our family members had it. It was just too very bad that many of us men that really wanted to find love and get married to have a family, which we had to be born in that time when many of us would’ve easily been settled down already with no trouble at all. But since most of these women are real losers to begin with today, MGTOW now is winning out and getting much stronger as time goes on since most men that are single now just like us will stay single altogether to avoid the pain and aggravation as well. MGTOW all the way.
And just to add a little more truth to my comment, which i know a few other friends that were Cursed at by these women too. Most women aren’t like the good old days at all today unfortunately since they really have changed for the worst which really hurt our society real bad. And now with all these shows and the media today has really corrupted many of these women as well, adding to the problem.
since 1998, ahead of the curve, I have been a MGTOW monk. I do not recognise MGTOW from your typical PC controlled perspective. There is no hate for women in the main (but the horror stories about how women destroy men and are rewarded with huge alimony payments and the injustice system makes you understandable why there is hate) For MGTOW, women, you see them but they mean nothing, like sand from the beach, they get everywhere but will they never influence your actions or lifestyle. They bring nothing to the table so what use are they? Unless your a blue bill or mangina who has no self-control and lusts after females, tell me what do women bring to the table? And most importantly MGTOW do not care one iota what women say, think or demand. We chsoe to live apart from them and mainstream society, if they just leave us alone we will just get on with our lives, it is women who challenge us and we do not care. If they are so all powerful and so superior to men in every way why the hell do they care about MGTOW because we sure as hell do not care about them. Self imposed gender segregation and self-control is the only future for any man who genuinely seeks to be happy, safe and free.
I disagree. Think you’re removing yourself from a great deal of beauty and joy. Since when is lusting after women exclusive to manginas? Women bring just as much to the proverbial table as men. You just got burned early on and now see them all the same way. I get this. I got burned a few years back. You can hear about how on the The Culture Wars are Upon Us ep we did recently. But the vast majority of violent crime is committed by men, but I don’t then think that all men are worthless and should be avoided.
I am someone who has been on the fence for a long while about all of this. I am someone who has had some very devastating relationships and have been contemplating many things here. When I was in my 20’s and had nothing, all I ever wanted to do is find “true love”. I was willing to sacrifice myself for it. Unfortunately, not being the best-looking guy, this never happened. Now that I am in my 40’s, I question everything about American women, specifically. I see many men get wives from other countries where the mentality does not seem to be the same and have very happy lives. I have also seen so many lives get wrecked by divorce and living in an alimony state, I decided not to chance it without knowing someone for a long time and not with out a prenup. What is worse now is that I am finally giving up on love and the future so I am stuck standing in the middle of a barren landscape without a direction to go. I am tired of giving myself for the hurt, but I also want a love that shakes my soul to the core. I do agree 3rd wave feminism created a havoc and #metoo has turned into a shell of its former self. I cannot compliment a women in the workplace without awkwardness and possibly offending them, especially since I look more like Chris Farley than Chris Hemsworth. I have read a lot about MGTOW lately and the use of prostitution and short term relationships to fulfill certain needs. Is this the answer? How do I decide when my heart yearns for one thing and my mind knows it could lead me to my own demise?
My brother, it seems like you’re struggling a bit here. Rather than turning to prostitution, I’d look to become more attractive. Prostitution isn’t for someone like you – someone looking for a deep connection. Imagine being 90 and still only getting intimacy from someone you have to pay. That sounds horrendous. I wouldn’t buy the hype.
Instead, work on becoming more attractive. Go to the gym, gain some muscle, gain resources, dress well and dinstinct, smell good, groom yourself, get your teeth done, get a tan, eat well, sleep well. From there it is all about character and putting yourself out there. But not in the soppy way it seems you have been doing it. I was the same as you in my early 20s. And I got burned. Women will tear apart weak men. People will tear apart weak people. So I would probably spend some time just dating so you work on being happy alone and not getting SOOO desperate for attachment as this kills attraction.
I might be able to help you. Email at yasin@thegoodlifeguy.com if interested.
When a young woman wants to study, work on her career, become successful, stay single and hang out with her independent friends, she is a feminist hero and praised by society. But when a young man does the same, he is seen as a man who hasn’t grown up, and society frowns upon single men. I read an article recently that successful career women hitting their thirties can’t find men of their academic/career “standards”. A little more research revealed that, in fact, there are a lot of men who are quite well off business wise, but have chosen not to marry, in fact avoiding women with a feminist attitude. Nice try ladies. The average western woman is not marriage material and marriage has become a financial contract that, if broken, is going to hurt men more than women. More men are taking notice and women don’t seem to like it. Remember men out there: A mistake avoided is a victory!
Isn’t it tiring thinking like this?